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Anonymous asked:

I know you aren't with Tumblr anymore but idk who else to ask. Why does tumblr make so many random changes AND never give any forewarning or a reasoning for why they made it, AND never give any data on the feedback we send or the results they get from those changes? I understand that tumblr doesn't make money so changes are necessary but it's the sudden changes with no warning or explanation combined with the fact that they ask for feedback and then ignore all of the feedback we send and never release anything related to that feedback we send in that gets to me and makes me not want to use tumblr and refuse to recommend it to friends.

jv replied:

Well well well…

this is a very difficult question to answer. Because… things… are complex.

I guess the gist of it is “the reality where a good part of the tumblr community lives is not the same reality that staff experience”. Mind you, I’m not saying that Staff is oblivious or uninformed. Kind of the opposite. Staff manages a big extra layer of data we the users don’t get access too. Things from “how long we have to achieve X or close” to “this change had very bad feedback but didn’t make the usage numbers go down and it’s bringing 0.03% more revenue”.

There’s a hard reality we tumblr users who like tumblr as-it-is need to start accepting: We are not making tumblr make money, so we are not going to be the ‘client’ here.

While I was in staff, we tried. We tried hard: Post+, the merch store, blaze, ad-free … all those were attempts to make tumblr a platform funded by its community. The results were … not great. Like, two orders of magnitude worse than they needed to be. That let tumblr in the hands of advertising money (that even if tiny compared with other sites, it still is the main Tumblr source of money by far). And for that, if you want to make the site stop burning millions per month you need way more people than we tumblrinas are right now.

Mix that with.. a certain disdain for tumblr as a platform from part of the top management. A big bunch of staff are hard-core users of tumblr who are more or less in tune with the feelings of the community, but in the upper management layers… there’s only one or two persons I can think of that actually seems to like and enjoy tumblr. The rest of them are mostly users of other platforms in their personal lives, and … they just don’t get why tumblr is so hooking for some of us. They don’t understand how it works, they don’t understand the popular content here, they don’t understand the people who already use this place.

Earlier this year I actually had a call with the CEO to try to explain him why tumblr was a great platform for a certain type of mindsets, how I have adapted to this boiling cauldron of feral goblins so quickly and become enthralled by it when I started using it four years ago. And I think I failed completely at trying to make him excited or even interested in either the site culture or its community. Or convince him that tumblr could expand vertically (bringing more tumblr-minded people in) instead of horizontally (broad the appeal of tumblr for the masses even if it dilutes the current essence).

So for management, it’s just a game of numbers: The current tumblr community doesn’t cover the costs of running the site, so they need a new community that does. And if in the process, some of the old community leaves forever, :shrug:, not a big loss, since they weren’t making the company any money anyway. It’s more important for them to get all those people leaving twitter or other platforms to actually come here and stay, and get those key metrics up up and to the right. Of course, this is just my personal opinion and I’m sure if someone send this post to those in management who I’m vaguepostingly mentioning here, they would be all “Of course we CARE about our community and tumblr’s history!”. But hey, you know you really don’t.

“But Javi, isn’t alienating the core community who creates most of the content in this platform a stupid and terrible idea in the long term?”. Why, dear anon, of course it is. Or that’s what I think. And that’s what I ended arguing about again and again and again and again while I was part of staff. And that’s, maybe, one of the handful of recurrent points where I wasn’t “aligned with the direction of the company” that made me un-staffed (take that, tiktok kids!).

Why, then why tumblr management keeps pushing for this pace of rapid and alienating changes? Because Automattic, tumblr owner, is a private funded company. And there has to be smoke and mirrors showing that tumblr is actually moving fast and making the numbers go up up up. Every. Fucking. Quarter.

Do you know what’s the most stressing time of the year for your random staff member? Is it eurovision with its peaks of traffic? april’s fools with all the tomfoolery? No. It’s the biannual Automattic board meeting. Because in every. single. one. of. them. we didn’t know if that was going to be the day where tumblr’s downsizing would be greenlighted. Literally, every six months the board would look at what happened at tumblr and say “ok, this is terrible but moving in a promising way, let’s see if these things you are planning work and re-evaluate in six months”.

Does this mean they are in the wrong and me and the people pushing to keep tumblr more tumblr were right? Well, no. Not necessarily. Tumblr has been under a very real existential thread for … at least a couple of years. And the reality is that 'trying to monetize tumblr as-is’ didn’t work at all from a purely economic point of view, and tumblr wouldn’t have survived for much longer without showing clear gains. So who knows, maybe by diluting tumblr they could manage to make it profitable and keep this site live for decades. I would be VERY happy to be in the wrong here.

At the end of the day, put yourself in staff shoes. You have been trying a lot of “sensible” things to try to make Tumblr sustainable. Your boss is reminding you that tumblr keeps losing money and setting dates for “lines of no return” where the company would need to deinvest on Tumblr if there is not a clear financial improvement. You know you are burning the midnight oil and the sensible changes requested by the community you have made barely had put you closer to the goal. So it’s time to try the crazy stuff and see what happens. Yeah, maybe that makes the boat explode, but maybe it changes it enough to keep it afloat. The alternative is letting it slowly sink into the darkness.

So, as I warned at the start of the post, this is a very complex issue with a lot of factors involved. And of course, this is just my particular view on it, I’m sure other ex-staff members would see it in a different way. Staff members need to keep their voices 'aligned with the direction’ so they don’t get un-staffed, but I can tell you that a good bunch of them are in private slack channels saying things like what I’m saying here (hello friends from #********* and #******-****!). Some of them like the X change but hate Y. Others don’t really care and are just doing their job and doing what their boss told them (which is a completely valid stance… this is a job).

So yeah, it’s complex. Believe me, a lot of folks in staff listen to what the community says. Deeply. But right now I don’t think management thinks that catering to the current community is a valid path. And given the constraints of time and money that staff needs to operate within, I’m not even sure it matters much.

jv:

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a bunch of people in the notes had interpreted my post as “the doom is near”. Well, yes and no.

I mean, tumblr has been at the brink of closing since… 2018 at last? Maybe even before? So it’s not this is a new situation.

So do I think tumblr is going to close next month? No, I don’t think so. Could it happen? sure. But I don’t think so.

I really hope the changes Staff will do in the next few months will get this site to a better financial situation, but if that don’t happen, I don’t think Automattic would close the site right away. Instead, they would start moving people to profitable projects and leave tumblr with a skeleton crew, with the site being online but a without much, if any, new developments, bugs that take a long time to be fixed and … well, less efficient moderation. If we get to that point, what happens after that is terra incognita: Maybe it could close after a while, maybe it could keep like that forever, maybe Automattic finds someone else to sell the site to. The timing? it depends a lot of the whimsy of a handful of rich white dudes. Staff may have three months to get more money in before the company decides to start pulling resources out. Or six. Or two years. It’s hard to tell, since it’s all mostly about the vibes the top brass feel at each point.

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dyscomancer:

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lest we forget

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gayweeddaddy69:

gayweeddaddy69:

silverskulltula:

listen hobbit pussy could be mediocre (doubtful) but even if it was it’s still followed by a 17 course homecooked meal and the kind of weed that would make sauron scared. lithe beautiful immortal elven pussy has no power compared to the simple, hardworking hobbit. and it goes without saying that you cannot handle dwarven pussy.

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you know her bush is adorned with elaborate braids representing a long family tradition of training a grip that could deglove your member if she so chose

dwarf pussy could shuck your foreskin off like a corn husk

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sarahexplosions:

“how can you like this objectively bad thing!” because i have bad taste. move on.

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stonelionhearts:

i think nonbinary folks need to be louder and meaner about inclusion. we should refuse every effort to confine us to a “third” gender. we need to speak up about misguided “women & nonbinary” groupings, because nonbinary is not Girl Lite™. in fact we need to take the whole idea of Girl Lite™ and smash it with a hammer and put it in an acid bath. dissolve that garbage. nonbinary is fat, it’s femme, it’s masc, it’s both, it’s neither, it’s an infinitely diverse category, and the sooner we nuke this basic-ass milquetoast image of “thin young white afab person” (which, lbr, people also wrongly interpret those folks as ‘pretty much just girls who want to be special for some reason lol’) the freer and better off we will all be

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bufobuddy:

penguinorchestrastuff:

bonelord10000:

theehorsepussy:

they are going this drink after me when i die

the horsepussy

  • 2 parts apple martini flavored crystal lite
  • 1 part methadone
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#preserve history#reblog the screenshot#share the truth with the youth

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entryn17:

tumblr trying to be like tiktok then trying to be like twitter then giving us the 3rd unreality inducing immersive ad, its staff members being condescending to the userbase, the marketing team trying to parasocialize their way into your pockets, youtube trying to do away with adblockers after upping the percentage of ads by 40% and making it so even if your video is demonetized watchers will still get them, youtube removing the dislike button then making it so you don’t get a home feed if you have watch history turned off, google being able to remove your synched bookmarks if they don’t comply with their policy, if i listed every way in which twitter has gotten worse in the last year this post will be as long as a novel, ai generated articles and images everywhere, google searches sucking ass in general, reddit charging for its api, KOSA being introduced into the US senate, tiktok in general, every social media under the fucking sun introducing log in walls, being unable to browse most sites on mobile from the sheer amount of popups taking over your screen WAUUUGH social media being products and thus requiring infinite growth and thus trying to introduce newer and newer shit that alienates its dedicated userbase. saturated sludge era of the internet

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tiny-septic-box-sam:

bornlucky:

bonus:


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I’ve never seen this with the update and it makes it so much funnier

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wintercorrybriea:

pinene:

peoplepuncher:

pinene:

testosteronefag:

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This tweet itself isn’t completely incorrect but. Bro the amount of men who think cum is just inside their balls at all times is so upsetting

Is it built up during sex/masturbation? Please respond

My statement may have been a little misleading— cum is NEVER inside the balls. The only thing testes produce is sperm, which is 5% or less of the overall ejaculate. Vast majority of fluid is made by the prostate and the seminal vesicle which are in the pelvis.

even more embarrassing “here’s some shit i made in the back”

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hlagol:

not-trustworthy:

continental

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english

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the man can do it all

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Don’t leave that good shit in the tags, @belovedofaforbiddengod!

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mark-legroom:

wake up babe, new reason to ditch FANDOM/Wikia just dropped

Zelda Wiki twitter:  Fandom refused to take this wiki down after we returned to independence and now it looks like they are using generative A.I. for "quick answers" which are spreading misinformation.  Please stop using Fandom. We do not approve of our past work being used like this.  [Screenshot of FANDOM Zelda Wiki with Quick Answers feature]ALT
Zelda Wiki twitter:  IN one case, it provides "answers" for a completely unrelated franchise.  [Screenshot of FANDOM Zelda Wiki with Quick Answers feature]ALT

Previosuly

Alternative free wiki hostings (aka wiki farms)

  • Miraheze - started in 2015, non-commercial - no ads and runs on donations, wide array of MediaWiki features, wide array of allowed types of wikis and content, much autonomy for projects, custom domain and private wiki options
  • wiki.gg - started in 2022 by former Gamepedia staff, limited to video games, accent on involvement of game devs and thus hosting official wikis, has ads for anons (but only of games having wikis here)
  • Telepedia - started in 2022, limited to entertainment (although might allow other themes upon review), has ads for anons, replicates Miraheze structure
  • WikiTide - started in 2023, no ads and runs on donations (but also tied w/ premium version called WikiForge), largely replicates Miraheze but has stricter content policies, custom domain option

Other free options I’m aware of are either too limited in allowed content or are very outdated/unstable in technical department to recommend here (or in case of Neoseeker - I’m completely unfamiliar with it, and can’t say anything about it), but you still can check them out, alongside paid hostings, on this MediaWiki page.

If you (or your community) are brave and dedicated enough you can go with self-hosted MediaWiki instance (aka independent hosting), like JoJo Wiki (who started on Wikia and succeed at overtaking the SEO) or NIWA wikis. This option, of course, requires funding and technical knowledge, but it’s still very much possible.

How to find existing alternative/independent wikis

  • try to use “-fandom” filter for search query in Google, or use other search engines like Bing or DuckDuckGo
  • Indie Wiki Buddy browser extension - it modifies search engine results and performs redirects based on its centralized list of independent wikis; a new indie wiki has to be requested/submitted to get added [ Firefox / Chrome ]
  • Redirect to wiki.gg browser extension - same as IWB but for wikis moved to wiki.gg (as I understand, works automatically without dedicated listing) [ Firefox / Chrome ]
  • (simple) Redirector browser extension - in case the wiki is neither on IWB or wiki.gg, and it doesn’t filter out search results - only performs redirect on whatever you get; a redirect has to be set manually - see this tutorial [ Firefox / Chrome ]

Fuck FANDOM, support real people, support indie wikis

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